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Transcript: Sen. Bernie Sanders on "Face the Nation," September 3, 2023_我的网站

A |     　　长沙8月25日电 (记者 刘双双)8月25日，湖南省农村产权交易中心揭牌，省级农村产权交易平台同步正式上线，标志着湖南农村产权交易市场体系建设进入省级统筹、数字赋能、规范运营的新阶段。8月25日，湖南省农村产权交易中心揭牌仪式现场。    The following is a transcript of an interview with Sen. Bernie Sanders, Independent of Vermont, that aired on "Face the Nation" on September 3, 2023.

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ROBERT COSTA: And we now go to Vermont Senator Bernie Sanders, who is joining us from Burlington. Good morning, Senator Sanders, we appreciate you being here.SEN. BERNIE SANDERS: Morning, Bob.      ROBERT COSTA: Senator, President Biden is touting the latest jobs numbers, but your recent speech in New Hampshire painted a bleak picture of the nation's economic reality. When you met with President Biden at the White House in recent days, what exactly did you tell him, Senator? And did you warn him, like you warned in New Hampshire, that, quote, 'Democrats must reject the corporate wing of the party?'SEN. SANDERS: Well, Bob, what I have said publicly, time and again, is that President Biden and his administration have made some real progress in addressing issues that have not been dealt- dealt with in decades. We finally took on the pharmaceutical industry, and we're beginning to make some progress in lowering the cost of prescription drugs, a lot more has to be done. After years of talk, we finally invested in rebuilding our crumbling infrastructure, roads, bridges, water systems. Manufacturing is coming back in America. So, I think we're making some progress, but everybody knows that for decades now, not just under Biden, not just under Trump, but for decades now, what we have seen in America is an economy in which the very, very wealthy are doing phenomenally well while working families are struggling. Today, Bob, we don't talk about it much, we have more income and wealth inequality than we have ever had in the history of the United States. This is way before Biden. But what we're seeing now is 60 percent of our people living paycheck to paycheck, we have a health care system which is totally broken, we pay the highest prices in the world for prescription drugs. We've got 18 million households, where people are spending 50 percent of their income trying to pay the rent or pay a mortgage. So, we have some structural problems in America. The Biden administration has made some progress, we have got a long way to go. And what the Democratic Party has got to do is have the guts to take on corporate greed, which is unprecedented, all over the economy. The people who own the large corporations have enjoyed record breaking profits, we got to create an economy that works for all, not just a few.                  ROBERT COSTA: Senator, you met with the President, you discussed these issues. You just heard from Ambassador Haley, she was attacking Vice President Harris. Are Democrats doing enough to support vice president Harris and she faces these kinds of attacks?SEN. SANDERS: Well, I think the issue is, are Democrats doing enough to win back a working class, which is leaving the Democratic Party? And what in my view Democrats have got to do is say, "Really? Do you really want to vote for a Republican Party, which wants to cut Social Security, we got to expand Social Security. Wants to cut Medicare, we have got to expand Medicare to include dental, hearing and vision. We got a Republican Party out there that doesn't even recognize the reality of climate change.' So I think, Bob, what this campaign is going to- should be about is a contrast between the ideas that work for the working families of this country, and what the Republicans stand for, which is more tax breaks for billionaires and paying allegiance to the needs of corporate America, not ordinary Americans.ROBERT COSTA: But is the administration doing enough? I listened closely to your speech in New Hampshire. The administration's recently taken action on marijuana, for example. But should it do more with executive power? It's taken action on prescription drug negotiations with Medicare. But should it do more? I mean, you- you're out there saying they should be tougher--SEN. SANDERS: And the answer is yes. Bob, the answer is yes, it should. Some of it can be done through executive orders, a lot can be done through legislation. And what I think has got to happen, this is my own view, is I think, what the President has got to say, is give me 50, at least 50 Democrats in the Senate. Give me control over the House of Representatives and by 50 Democrats, I mean, real Democrats, not corporate Democrats, like Manchin and Sinema. And if you do that, within two or three months, we're going to reform health care to move it toward a system which guarantees health care to all people, not just huge profits for the insurance companies. We're going to lower the cost of prescription drugs, so we're not paying any more than the rest of the world. We're going to rebuild our economy, to work for ordinary people, and I think that's got to be the message. Contrast, a progressive agenda for working people versus a Republican agenda.                      ROBERT COSTA: Senator, I know you don't like to talk politics, but you're the one who went to New Hampshire, an early primary state you've done very well in over the years. You support President Biden 100 percent, you've made that clear, but for any reason, if President Biden decides not to seek the Democratic nomination, is a run by Senator Sanders for the nomination on the table next year?SEN. SANDERS: Bob, I think we spend too much time speculating. I think President Biden is going to be the nominee of the Democratic Party and I think if he runs on a strong, progressive agenda, he's not only going to win, he's going to win by a strong vote and I'll tell you why. Because when you look at a Republican Party, it's not only that you have a president, a former president, who has been impeached twice, indicted four times. These are people who deny women in this country have the right to control their own bodies, really? Is that where we are in 2023? Not recognizing the reality of climate change, wanting more tax breaks for billionaires, that's what their agenda is. So I think that in any kind of serious campaign, President Biden and the Democrats will do quite well against that reactionary agenda.ROBERT COSTA: What do you- what do you say, Senator, though, to some of your longtime supporters, who are frustrated because they don't believe the Biden administration's done enough? They may not share your view of how things have gone. And they're thinking about Cornel West, or they're thinking about Robert F. Kennedy, Jr. What's your message to them as they drift toward those others?SEN. SANDERS: Well, my message to them is that we are living in an unprecedented moment in American history. Donald Trump is not only a pathological liar, has not only helped wage an insurrection, if you like, to prevent President Biden from taking office. Not only is denying American democracy, moving against the American democracy. So I think at this moment, Bob, we have got to bring the progressive community together to say, you know what, we're gonna fight for a progressive agenda. But we cannot have four more years of Donald Trump in the White House.ROBERT COSTA: Do you worry about the progressive vote, staying home?SEN. SANDERS: I think if the Democrats come up with a strong agenda that speaks to the needs of senior citizens in this country, and that means raising Social Security benefits, expanding Medicare, if we speak to the needs of young people that is having a lot to do with student debt, if we demand that the wealthiest people in this country stop paying their fair share of taxes, if we come up with a progressive agenda, I think we're going to win and win big. And when we win big, we have to make it clear that we stand with the working class of this country against the kind of corporate greed that we now see.ROBERT COSTA: Senator quickly, you are also the chairman of the Senate Health and Labor Committee. Progressives voters are looking to you as well for action. You're investigating Amazon warehouses right now. Are you committed to issuing a subpoena for Jeff Bezos, the founder of Amazon to come testify or not?                      SEN. SANDERS: Well, we're gonna pick one step at a time. Right now, what we're working on Bob, is major reforms in primary health care. We don't have enough doctors, nurses, dentists,  mental health providers in this country. We're working hard on legislation to do that. We brought Mr. Schultz from Starbucks before the committee, we are looking at Amazon and we'll take it one step at a time, but certainly have no fears. You know, at the appropriate time they may well do that.ROBERT COSTA: Thank you very much. Senator Sanders. We appreciate you taking the time on a Sunday morning, Face the Nation. We'll be back in one minute. Stay with us.                                  。　主办方供图　　农业大省湖南自2018年布局农村产权交易市场建设，推动土地、山林、水面、厂房、闲置房屋等农村集体资源资产进入平台公开流转交易。截至目前，全省已建成12家市级、110家县级交易市场，累计成交超70亿元。近年来，农村产权交易市场建设步伐加快，交易体量增加明显，其中2025年成交额达24.85亿元，交易品类基本覆盖农村各类资源资产。

B | 　　近年来，基层市场先行先试激活了农村沉睡资源，但也暴露出建设标准不一、交易规则各异、业务系统割裂、数据壁垒突出、区域发展不均衡等短板，建设省级统一平台迫在眉睫。2026年湖南省委一号文件明确提出建设省级农村产权流转交易平台。经湖南省农业农村厅公开遴选，确定湖南财信金控集团旗下湖南联交所控股的湖南省农村产权交易有限公司，作为湖南省农村产权交易中心建设运营主体。　　据介绍，湖南省农村产权交易中心将统一建设标准，交易规则和业务流程，健全市场制度体系，拓展交易品类，加快构建“省－市－县－乡－村”五级贯通的农村产权交易统一大市场，并积极融入全国农村产权交易统一大市场建设。　　“数字农交”是湖南省农村产权交易中心建设的重要支撑。《湖南省级农村产权交易中心建设实施方案》明确，将打造“数字农交”样板工程，建设可供全省使用的农村产权流转交易信息系统，推动交易市场互联互通、数据共享，并加强与农村集体“三资”、土地确权、村级财务、项目招采等相关系统衔接，提升全省农村产权交易数字化、规范化、便利化水平。8月25日，湖南省农业农村厅党组书记、厅长毛朝晖(左))和湖南财信金控集团党委书记、董事长周建元为湖南省农村产权交易中心揭牌。　　主办方供图　　湖南财信金控集团党委书记、董事长周建元表示，将切实履行建设运营主体责任，坚持规范为先、数字赋能、产融协同，把平台建好、管好、运营好，更好盘活农村资源资产、服务农民增收、赋能乡村振兴，努力把省农交中心建设成为盘活农村资源的重要平台、服务农民增收的重要载体、金融赋能乡村振兴的重要纽带。　　湖南省农业农村厅党组书记、厅长毛朝晖指出，建设省级农村产权交易中心，是湖南深化农村集体产权制度改革、规范农村“三资”管理的制度创新，对激活乡村资源潜能、拓宽农民增收渠道、畅通城乡要素流动具有里程碑意义。对交易中心的建设运营，他提出要强化统筹协同，推动省市县三级平台贯通、乡镇村服务站点延伸，加快构建一体化大市场；强化数字赋能，依托财信金控综合优势，做实“数字农交”特色品牌；强化监管，健全协同监管机制，严守风险底线，不断提升市场规范化、专业化水平。　　为进一步夯实全省农村产权统一大市场制度根基，湖南正加快推进省市县三级市场实现交易系统联网与数据同步，将集体资产出租、小微工程招投标进场交易纳入考核，并推动制定出台《湖南省农村产权交易管理办法》等，用制度、技术、考核协同保障市场规范运行。自9月1日起，湖南农村“三资”交易开始执行“应进必进”要求，进一步推动农村集体资产阳光交易、规范流转。

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